tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post1374348041510286484..comments2024-03-27T00:29:11.029-07:00Comments on China Air and Naval Power: Is J-10B finally revealing itself?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-39311463037033074662009-06-01T07:38:49.800-07:002009-06-01T07:38:49.800-07:00Reminds me of the ugly duckling ..wasn't this desi...Reminds me of the ugly duckling ..wasn't this design made for JSF<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boeing_X-32B_Patuxent.jpg<br /><br />Sees Chinese have copied this too.<br />Ahh Chinese..they never stop cracking me upTejaswyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04086849530323076321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-67729488984689556032009-04-03T21:13:00.000-07:002009-04-03T21:13:00.000-07:00Recently, I have seen several posting, on differen...Recently, I have seen several posting, on different, referencing the graduation of the first group of female fighter pilots. I have also seen comments to the effect that it was an April Fool's joke. Do you have any insight or opinions?<BR/><BR/>John FryerElderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08259519320467292363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-6186747332103792742009-03-28T21:15:00.000-07:002009-03-28T21:15:00.000-07:00I think generally speaking, the carrier project is...I think generally speaking, the carrier project is going to be laid down soon. I've posted in the past about what I think the schedule might be. In order to get all the parts including the naval fighter, naval AEW ready, that would probably take until 2015. And I would think that it would take even longer to get carrier operations down.<BR/><BR/>Not sure about the second batch of JF-17, probably better avionics and weapons? We will have to see.Fenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09351872761178293322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-77492217799898284262009-03-27T15:40:00.000-07:002009-03-27T15:40:00.000-07:00Jiang, 2011; 2 carriers? I think that's a bit of w...Jiang, 2011; 2 carriers? I think that's a bit of wishful thinking. <BR/><BR/>I'd say the most optimistic time that carriers will come out for China would probably be between 2015 and 2020.<BR/>But still, Feng should know more..Rick Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13100965365056470588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-16237538514579284532009-03-27T13:35:00.000-07:002009-03-27T13:35:00.000-07:00So, Feng. We will not buy anymore fighters from ru...So, Feng. We will not buy anymore fighters from russia, even Su-33, this is great news, I really hope we will NEVER buy any thing from russia anymore. Instead, we should invest our money on our own fighters and equibments.<BR/><BR/>Also, Feng. On PDF, people are talking about the second batch JF-17, what will the differences between the first and second batch??<BR/><BR/>As for our aircraft-carrier, when do you think they will be completed?? How many will be completed?? I know that J-11C will be the airborn fighter but when will J-11C be introduced?? My guess is by 2011 we will have two aircraft carriers completed and armed with J-11C, along with Varyag as a training carrier.Jianghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04225178540970581984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-71987868377223262702009-03-26T14:47:00.000-07:002009-03-26T14:47:00.000-07:00It's pretty clear at this point that China has cho...It's pretty clear at this point that China has chosen SAC's flanker design for carrier fighter. As for AESA radar, I'd expect J-10B to be using AESA right from the start.Fenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09351872761178293322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-13956374922544149062009-03-24T17:10:00.000-07:002009-03-24T17:10:00.000-07:00Hi Feng, it's a bit irrelevant, but in your opinio...Hi Feng, it's a bit irrelevant, but in your opinion, which variant is more likely to be PLAN's first carrier-based fighter, the one based on J-11 or the one based on J-10?thwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01412919371629942997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-80058808804099021782009-03-24T03:00:00.000-07:002009-03-24T03:00:00.000-07:00I agree with Mike H says that we here to learn. On...I agree with Mike H says that we here to learn. Only a bloody minded person to use this opportunity to insult people.<BR/>By Valbonnevalbonnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529128459369858636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-57189264159882802972009-03-23T21:39:00.000-07:002009-03-23T21:39:00.000-07:00Thanks Feng, but if you had to make an estimate on...Thanks Feng, but if you had to make an estimate on when China will get an AESA on a fighter?Rick Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13100965365056470588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-9000113363729281592009-03-22T08:04:00.000-07:002009-03-22T08:04:00.000-07:00For AESA, I think what you are seeing is several m...For AESA, I think what you are seeing is several major radar firms in China working on them like NRIET, 38th institute and 607. And then if you read from big shrimps in Chinese forum, it's believed that J-10B will be equipped with AESA radar. Although, I have to say that initially it might not be equipped with AESA radar, Crobato made a good point when he pointed out several other fighters that have the oval shaped nose but are equipped with slotted array radar. But once AESA is ready for mass production in China (and I don't know when that is), J-10 will be the first one for it.Fenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09351872761178293322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-16667228277100940672009-03-21T17:08:00.000-07:002009-03-21T17:08:00.000-07:00Pakistani kids love to dote the "Thunder" with exo...Pakistani kids love to dote the "Thunder" with exorbitant praises. Unfortunately when asked what it is their engineers provided to the project, they come up empty. <BR/><BR/>If or when the PLAAF decides to field this version of "J-10B" is still questionable. This plane is still a prototype and entirely susceptible to future modifications. <BR/><BR/>Coming onto Feng's blog (which has provided valuable analysis on numerous Chinese defense projects) and attempting to ridicule his opinion is both pitiful and pathetic. If your visiting Feng's blog, it's obvious you're here to learn. There's no point in posting insinuating comments here. There are however, plenty room for that on other forums. <BR/><BR/>Well that's my 2 cents. I hope you keep up the good work Feng!Mike Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06247999994300094463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-42897949111652284492009-03-21T15:15:00.000-07:002009-03-21T15:15:00.000-07:00What sources do you have about the Chinese AESA? I...What sources do you have about the Chinese AESA? Is China at the stage when they're able to build their own small AESA now?Rick Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13100965365056470588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-15721455115490236822009-03-21T09:27:00.000-07:002009-03-21T09:27:00.000-07:00This definitely your blog, and i'll let you have t...This definitely your blog, and i'll let you have the last word. I have no idea why you are making those insinuation about me being the guy who told you JF-17 is better than J-10. The last few lines surely tell alot about your background though...<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your patience.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05660756030578602060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-2036418098860771502009-03-21T08:46:00.000-07:002009-03-21T08:46:00.000-07:00http://webaviation.blogspot.com/2008/06/lockheed-m...http://webaviation.blogspot.com/2008/06/lockheed-martinboeing-f-22-raptor.html<BR/><BR/>Former Lockheed Raptor chief test pilot Paul Metz stated that the Raptor has a fixed inlet; but while the absence of variable intake ramps may theoretically make speeds greater than Mach 2.0 unreachable, there is no evidence to prove this.<BR/><BR/>Generally the idea is that it's much harder for something with fixed inlet to achieve the same maximum speed. After it gets close to Mach 2.0, it becomes harder to reach that speed.<BR/><BR/>And this is something consistently state by Chinese sources as the reason that they went with variable intake on J-10 in the first place.<BR/><BR/>And we all got it wrong? I'm frankly tired of PDF members getting upset with me saying that J-10 is a vastly superior fighter to JF-17 and then sending wise-cracks at me afterward. If this is goal here, then you can get lost.Fenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09351872761178293322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-80410996465579057812009-03-20T17:36:00.000-07:002009-03-20T17:36:00.000-07:00P.S Where did you find F-22's Max speed? I thought...P.S Where did you find F-22's Max speed? I thought it was still a secret!<BR/><BR/>Speed depends mainly on factors like weight,drag and most importantly actual exit values of thrust. Variable intakes tend to affect the last factor but adversely affects Weight/Complexity factor. How much weight could be shed by abondoning a heavy and complex system in favor of light weight arrangement and how much that will help the max speed is something that needs to be considered before making direct relationships between inlets and speed.<BR/><BR/>Plus if you would spend few minutes googling you'll definitely find somethings that could be done to fixed inlets inorder to optimize high speed performance well upto hypersonic regimes. <BR/><BR/>http://pdf.aiaa.org/preview/CDReadyMASM03_582/PV2003_12.pdfUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05660756030578602060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-52405236011802512852009-03-20T17:14:00.000-07:002009-03-20T17:14:00.000-07:00No, I' am not that dude! I am the other dude who h...No, I' am not that dude! I am the other dude who has been following your posts and if my memory is not failing me you have regularly shown great skepticsim in past about DSI being incorporated on J-10 due to the speed reasons.That does stand in big contrast to the contentions about PLAAF's uncompromising stance on speed requirement eve if we buy this speed argument.<BR/><BR/>Anyway we all got it wrong and nothing wrong with it, as long as we are more forthcoming about it ;)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05660756030578602060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-24639028635227370642009-03-19T20:30:00.000-07:002009-03-19T20:30:00.000-07:00Are you that dude on PDF that I debated with befor...Are you that dude on PDF that I debated with before? Who thinks JF-17 is somehow superior to J-10?<BR/><BR/>Do a little research, fixed intakes can only get to a certain speed, variable inlet like the one J-10 had allowed for better supersonic performance. You might want to look up why F-15 has a much higher max velocity than F-22. PLAAF has certain requirements which they gave for J-10B, if that means sacrificing some supersonic performance for more stealthiness then that's what they are going for.Fenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09351872761178293322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-83799789247265742672009-03-19T18:17:00.000-07:002009-03-19T18:17:00.000-07:00If i am not wrong you were a big skeptic of the fa...If i am not wrong you were a big skeptic of the fact that J-10 will have DSI. Alot of other people considered it a step background on the grounds that it will reduce it's Mach-2 speed limit (even though i havent seen a single serious scientific publication supporting that claim).<BR/><BR/>What are your thoughts now? Do you think PLAAF decided to take that step backwards?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05660756030578602060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-42165822198974108522009-03-19T03:12:00.000-07:002009-03-19T03:12:00.000-07:00The two J-10B, are they using the same turbofan en...The two J-10B, are they using the same turbofan engine? Which aircraft is more maneuverability?<BR/><BR/>Valbonnevalbonnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529128459369858636noreply@blogger.com