tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post6029176520888709920..comments2024-03-27T00:29:11.029-07:00Comments on China Air and Naval Power: What to make of speculated deals for Su-35/Lada?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-63623374229772761102013-04-09T07:57:18.796-07:002013-04-09T07:57:18.796-07:00as usual, JH-7B is possible, but until we see a re...as usual, JH-7B is possible, but until we see a real prototype out, it's not definitive. And that link doesn't really tell me much.Fenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09351872761178293322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-65474043804298792022013-04-05T17:38:08.672-07:002013-04-05T17:38:08.672-07:00Oh, sorry, here is the link:
http://www.guancha.c...Oh, sorry, here is the link:<br /><br />http://www.guancha.cn/Science/2013_04_03_136295.shtmlMeng-yuanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929886311002300779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-49718267368353577782013-04-05T17:33:28.252-07:002013-04-05T17:33:28.252-07:00Feng, this is off topic, but two years ago we had ...Feng, this is off topic, but two years ago we had an exchange about JH-7B and you did not put much credibility on the news back then. Here is a new article on it. Do you feel there may be some substances behind the speculation?Meng-yuanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929886311002300779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-86066139971713924652013-04-03T14:34:50.984-07:002013-04-03T14:34:50.984-07:00Russia along with China, India, Brazil and South A...Russia along with China, India, Brazil and South Africa are member of BRICS.<br />China will work closely with Russia on weapon development and productions.Inquiring Mindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13319639867097591393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-44040441901458885902013-04-03T14:29:02.886-07:002013-04-03T14:29:02.886-07:00China already many advanced weapons designs in pla...China already many advanced weapons designs in place including aircraft engines.<br />China needs hundred of thousands highly skilled production workers and need to take several years to train those workers to build advanced aircraft engines.<br />The training processes might had started years ago but was understaffed back then.<br />It looks like China is staffing up it's high skilled production <br />workers now.Inquiring Mindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13319639867097591393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-10884439669846924322013-04-03T09:51:40.162-07:002013-04-03T09:51:40.162-07:00China is financing Russia military development by ...China is financing Russia military development by buying those expensive weapons to counter balance U.S. global military strategy.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06989357657812536711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-37156053846328756532013-04-03T09:47:19.959-07:002013-04-03T09:47:19.959-07:00China is big difference from 1800s and 1900s compa...China is big difference from 1800s and 1900s compared to today.<br />China could not fight back at all in 1800s and 1900s.<br />China is holding 1.2+ trillions U.S. national debts.<br />China is holding largest Japan's national debts.<br />China is world number 2 economy and is catching U.S. soon.<br />That is why U.S. pivoting to Asia to slow down and harassing China.<br />China is counteract with China, Korea<br />and Japan FTA.<br />In addition, BRICS is China's strategy to counteract U.S. led influences.<br />Many top U.S. researchers, scientists and engineers are Chinese.<br />Some of those Chinese are working in China to develop China's version of U.S. latest weapons.<br />U.S. is underestimating China for a while.<br />Don't forget China wrote the Art of War hundreds years ago!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06989357657812536711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-49707625865438277872013-04-02T12:01:24.345-07:002013-04-02T12:01:24.345-07:00I have read somewhere that the purchase of Su-35 i...I have read somewhere that the purchase of Su-35 is intended not for the engine or radar but for the long-distance AA missiles the Su -35 would bring along. Any comments? Christian Brotherhoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04172845470559712717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-82318587097472917482013-03-31T13:48:17.688-07:002013-03-31T13:48:17.688-07:00Congratulations! This is the best thing, Thank you...Congratulations! This is the best thing, Thank you so much for taking the time to share this exciting information.<br /><a href="http://www.promagenergy.com/promag-air-conditioning-port-st-lucie.html" rel="nofollow"><b>hvac port st lucie</b></a>mikaljainshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539417436096949180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-71240751946578546772013-03-31T07:16:00.284-07:002013-03-31T07:16:00.284-07:00Nobody should underestimate the audacity, ruthless...Nobody should underestimate the audacity, ruthless and reckless of the former colonial imperialist powers. Qing’s incompetence and complacency had plunged China into two hundred years of misery, suffering and despair; if current Chinese leadership repeats the mistakes of the Qing due to China’s current achievements, they are simply irresponsible and more incompetent than Qing.<br /><br />Particularly the USA is a bellicose and ruthless warmonger that has been bombing and killing on the moral high ground, while Japan is an unapologetic war criminal that is a history denier and atrocity denier. <br /><br />If China falls to the pry of the former colonial imperialist powers again, China will not be so lucky to have another chance to recover like today; those aggressors will make sure China stay under their thumbs forever.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256477838490874591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-69139938936017026342013-03-31T05:28:26.078-07:002013-03-31T05:28:26.078-07:00In my opinion,this deal for the Su-35 and the Lada...In my opinion,this deal for the Su-35 and the Lada's, if it ever eventually happens, may be a Chinese over-reaction to the US Asia Pivot and the US support for Japan over the Diayou Islands dispute. The PLA has made such purchases from Russia before whenever it was forced to do so in the past by the US. Eg: Carriers in the Taiwan strait. It is also about the same time of the Russian deal that China anounced the full scale development of the H-X strategic bomber which will give the PLA the ability to launch long range naval strikes against carrier battle groups in the pacific and intercontinental cruise missile strikes. Is this merely a coincidence? <br /><br />This deal may never eventuate as all that was done was to sign a "Memorandum of understanding" which means an agreement to talk further about whatever was discussed.<br /><br />Claims have been made that the <br />117s will be used in the J-20 which will be deployed in 2015.<br />I personally don't think this will happen. <br />The SU-35 version of the 117s is overrated in terms of performance. The 117s produces thrust of 14200kg. The WS-10G which is already under testing produces 14,000+kg of thrust which makes it almost equivalent to the 117s in terms of performance.<br />I have also read that the preferred engine choice that will power the early model J-20 is the WS-10G. Efforts are being made to accelerate the development of the WS-10G in order to meet this deadline. The WS-10G will be used as the interim engine till the WS-15 enters full production.<br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /> willytan1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06735555184389921640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-20509302759107928442013-03-30T19:04:23.297-07:002013-03-30T19:04:23.297-07:00Even China’s industry has advanced to the stage it...Even China’s industry has advanced to the stage it can produce all parts by themselves and the parts are as good as the Russian’s, but buying Su-35/Lada still makes sense, the purpose is not to reverse engineering the product but to find out the good characteristics of those products which might not come across Chinese mind. Even the American and Israeli found there was something in the MiGs that they could learn. <br /><br />On top of that those Su-35s/Ladas could sharpen PLA air force and navy to higher degree of competence so that they can have better chance to win wars and survive, which is way more valuable than the money paid to the Russian. Probably that’s why China did not ask for technology transfer; because China can build something better after thoroughly understanding of those Su-35s/Ladas. China would buy American war planes and warships too if American is willing to sell.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256477838490874591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-71628191305281174072013-03-30T18:36:36.954-07:002013-03-30T18:36:36.954-07:00Most modern PLAN submarines are cigar/tear-drop sh...Most modern PLAN submarines are cigar/tear-drop shape, some of them has added partial light hull for operational purposes. Constructing a cigar shape in single hull is way more easier than building a cigar shape in double hull, therefore constructing a cigar shape in double hull just does not make engineering sense; it is redundant, burdensome, hard to build and has no meaningful advantages. Saying Chinese submarine development confined to double-hull design is puzzling.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256477838490874591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-88186177365665470082013-03-30T10:11:24.538-07:002013-03-30T10:11:24.538-07:00I thought I read here that China recently develope...I thought I read here that China recently developed a new metal alloy, which would solve its biggest engine reliability problem, premature metal fatigue. A purchase for Su-35s would prove that Chinese jet engine development is very far behind. It is said that Chinese jet engines are 10 years behind Russian engines, and Russian engines are 10 years behind US & EU engines. If this is indeed the case then China should redouble its efforts to exploit France's economic problems, and buy the engines used on the Rafale.<br /><br />Having said all of that, I read an article 4 years ago that PLAF was attempting to develop pulse jet engines to get around its turbofan problems entirely. Can anybody elaborate on this?DLF1977https://www.blogger.com/profile/09496351532148996088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-41427651685794065722013-03-29T18:30:25.511-07:002013-03-29T18:30:25.511-07:00Can we read anything into the state of the WS-15&#...Can we read anything into the state of the WS-15's development if they are indeed trying to acquire the 117S engine? Or is this just the PLAAF hedging risk as usual?Leihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16246495147135193562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-33997743964818853932013-03-29T18:30:17.735-07:002013-03-29T18:30:17.735-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Leihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16246495147135193562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-25612520537507385722013-03-29T16:23:10.252-07:002013-03-29T16:23:10.252-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.fpkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13778726373872584491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2810814791836407713.post-33647912844102704122013-03-29T14:38:04.782-07:002013-03-29T14:38:04.782-07:00I am glad that you write about the SU-35 and Lada ...I am glad that you write about the SU-35 and Lada deal and give a good assessment.<br /><br />I personally did not think that the Chinese would want the SU-35. If the deal does go through, I agree with you that the engine is the key goal, although there have been rumors about Shengyang's inability to improve SU-27's structural design, which was know to have weakness at the wing root, preventing sustained very-high-g maneuvers.<br /><br />The Lada purchase, in contrast, makes great sense from the Chinese point of view. China's submarine development has been confined to double-hull design, which is less efficient than the modern hybrid (but mainly single-hull) structure used in all western submarines. Lada, although too small to be very useful itself, can help greatly accelerate Chinese learning. Lada's conformal sonar array is also something new to the PLAN and represents another valuable technological acquisition. <br /><br />My only disagreement with your analysis is on noise-suppression. Modern Chinese submarines are just too noisy to be consistent with Chinese technical progress, unless the PLAN wants them that way. The PLAN has been known to paint the same number on multiple submarines. It is quite possible that it also employs noise camouflage to confuse potential opponents.Meng-yuanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04929886311002300779noreply@blogger.com