Thursday, November 27, 2008

J-10 from Zhuhai airshow

J-10 was clearly the star of the recent Zhuhai airshow. There were many UAVs, but J-10 attracted all of the attention. You can see many of its flight performances on youtube by searching "j-10 zhuhai air show". You will be able to find clips like this, this and this. We saw J-10 doing steep climbs, sharp turns and refueling with HU-6. It certainly prompted some new reactions to the plane. One of the more famous ones were posted by Stephen Trimble. The comment by a Moscow-based aerospace journalist is as follows.
I watched how the J-10 flew over Zhuhai, in 30 degree Celsius temperatures and high humidity.

The pilot did none of the show tricks like post-stall or tail slide or pitch-back, but turns were very tight, initial rate of turn very high. It was clear there is a lot of potential in this airplane to achieve the same maneuvers more quickly.

The pilot rarely used afterburner and the degrees of canard deflection were small. Still, the airplane flew very well. I reckon it will beat F-16C or MiG-29/SMT easily.

Now, I certainly feel vindicated that a Russian is actually really praising J-10 over Russian fighters. I'm still waiting for more article to come out on J-10 at the moment. I haven't seen anything by Richard Fisher or PKF on this.

The other revealing part about J-10 came out of an interview with Lei Qiang, one of the first J-10 test pilots. He certainly brought a lot of heated exchanges on Chinese bbs by saying that J-10 can do Cobra better than su-27. He also gave an interview with a magazine where he talked about his experiences with J-10. He talked about where J-10 was stronger and weaker. However, one of the more interesting thing that came out was a commentary online regarding Lei Qiang. The writer just talked about how the upper level in PLAAF didn't know how well J-10 would fare against su-27. So they asked Lei Qiang for his assessment. Unlike a more conservative/shy pilot would do, LQ clearly listed the areas that J-10 are better and the areas that su-27 are better. He ended it by saying that he definitely thinks J-10 can dominate su-27. So, they actually took su-27s flied by top pilots from one of the elite units and put it again J-10s flown by test pilots. And J-10 won handily. That is how J-10 project got supported. This man has also flown F-16 and Mirage III in Pakistan. He has also traveled to other country to see the tactics of other country's pilots. Basically, he has had some experience with modern Western fighters and tactics. His comments to PLAAF bosses and then the subsequent performance of J-10 vs su-27 probably ensured the success of the program.

And after the air show, we also heard PAF officials reiterating its desire to purchase about 2 squadrons of J-10. It's hard to say what is the next revelation of this plane. I suppose we will see J-10B's pictures coming out soon. We should also see WS-10A equipped J-10 pictures, although it's not that easy to differentiate that from AL-31FN equipped ones. I will also be waiting eagerly for next generation AAMs and PGMs (some of which were displayed in Zhuhai) equipped on J-10.

Let's take a look at all the PGMs showcased in the airshow and there are a lot of them. A couple of them first appeared in 2006 airshow, but more variants were showcased (from the same series, but just in different weight class). First, the FT series of SGBs. There is even a gliding version in FT-2.

In addition, you can see a video of FT-2/5 in a promotional video here.

Next part are the LGBs and SGBs produced by the maker of LS-6 and LT-2. We see a new 250 kg version of LS-6 + LT-3 that has TV and Laser guidance.

And finally, this is a promotion for LT-2, it shows that LT-2's CEP is 3 m.

And finally, there is another LGB called ZQX-200 produced another manufacturer. It shows that there really is many competitors right now.


Jiang said...

Hey, feng. It is nice to see you again. I think J-10 is quite matuared now. When do you think the next generation J-10C/D will come out and what upgrade will be there??

BTW, have you heard that india got ROCKED by muslims, some indian muslims must got sick and tired of hindu oppressions and finially started a revolution. Again, I am not saying that I am happy for this attack, but rather I see the true fact of indian demoneCRAZY at work, lol. I mean come on, india's economy is only about 30 percent of a commuist China's, and the indian are calling themselves first world. I know that there is still a CAST system in India, where low cast people are treated like dirt while upper CAST people are gold! Is this really democracy or is it demoneCRAZY??
What is more funny is that the indians keep blaming China for being communist and saying that all indians love each other and get alone, lol WHAT A JOKE!!
I am Chinese, and I am proud of it, I love our government and my country!! My only wish is that Chinese around the globe will be more UNITED!!

Feng said...

do you mean J-10B? probably sometimes next year I'm guessing. II hope to start seeing its photos by then. I think we've all heard about India terror attack. Regardless, it's sad that so many innocent people died. It's really inappropriate for you to take such an opportunity to put down India.

Jiang said...

Feng, I am not putting down India. Look, the Bhindians use every chances they can get to bash China, they are proprably behind the Tibit incident before the Oylimpic!!! And what is funny is that India keep trying to tell everyone in the UNIVERSE that it has great human right record, that they Hindus and Muslims all love each other in Bhindia, and Indians treat people in Kashimir like GOLD!!
And now what?? They are attacked by muslims who got sick and tired of their DemonCrazy and Hindu LOVE???

Anonymous said...

Feng, checkout this article.

The author's interpretation is that J-10's missile has a range of over 100km.

Your comment?

Feng said...

i think they are talking about PL-12, and they are probably going by ballistic range rather than the actual effective range. When fired at an high altitude, PL-12 can probably can achieve 100 km in range. From the context of document, I don't think it's talking about any other missile.

menokki said...

hey Jiang

Why dont you check out tibet and Xinjiang man!

And btw J 10 Lavi avionics and Russian hand me down engine.

LOL. I love your hate!

Jiang said...
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menokki said...

apologies. but why should anyone celebrate a carnage?

Jiang said...

I am not celebrating. Look when the Tibet incident happend most western countries are happy, even though Tibiten "terresits" attack innoncent people and burn down shop. Guess what India was quite "Happy" too!!!

menokki said...

India is stupid to support foreigner Tibetans who have no care for India but to use it for their own bad purposes.

menokki said...

and the people of india dont want no trouble with any neighbour. they just want to go about their business for a good future. it's the leaders who cause all the trouble,

Jiang said...

Same with Chinese. We Chinese just want to live our lives however, some western countries do not want just that, they want to spicy things up!!